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Red hair - need help!

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Jennifer Kiln

Jennifer K.

MANCHESTER,
United Kingdom

20 posts

Okay, so I have dark brown hair and really would like it to be a nice red (not overly bright!) but using a red dye on my hair now (even a really intense one like Live XXL) doesn't make much difference at all. It tints it slightly, but its only visible in daylight.

So, Im wondering if anyone knows of any dyes that lighten and colour at the same time? I've had platinum blonde hair in the past which ruined the condition, so id prefer not to have to pre-lighten! Im not even sure if they exist but any tips would be appreciated :)

over 4 years ago

#1
Marin Monroe .

Marin Monroe ..

LONDON,
United Kingdom

3605 posts

I remember at one point there was a version of live xxl that lightened and coloured at the same time
But the thing with schwarzkopf is that their dyes fade super easily, which is shit.

0 · July 24, 2010

#2
Cora-Lee B

Cora-Lee B.

MINNESOTA,
United States

149 posts

Like I told someone on here before, red hair sucks to obtain.
I go to a cosmetology school to get all my cutting and coloring done, and its a fraction of the price.
I get a full color and cut for under 40 bucks, so see if you can find a cosmetology school around you.

0 · July 24, 2010

#3
Emma E

Emma E.

LONDON,
United Kingdom

369 posts

Red hair is real pain in the ass (but so pretty!). I've dyed mine many times and the dye that stayd the longest and didn't go orange or pink was Loreal Color Pulse even though it says that it's temporary and stays up to 2 weeks it stayed pretty bright for like 3 months. But I don't think you could get really red hair with that from dark brown. I've also recently dyed my hair with Palette Color XXL dye for highlights (you can see how bright the hair is in my newest look) but it washed off really fast and now I'm stuck with pink-orange hair. Oh, and it damaged my hair quite a lot :/

0 · July 24, 2010

#4
Emma O

Emma O.

OL' ENGLANDE,
United Kingdom

62 posts

You say you don't want to prelighten your hair, but you want a dye that lightens AND dyes?

It's going to damage it just as much using a dye that lightens AND colours than lightening it and then colouring it.
I'd suggest if you want a really vibrant colour you lighten your hair and use a semi permanent dye [you will have to apply it over and over but it will be bright] I dye my hair pastel colours every week, yes I change the colour EVERY week. My hair is naturally white and just a teaspoon of dye will do my whole hair pastel coloured because the dye I use is so pigmented. It also conditions as it colours, contains no bleach and is completely natural.

I'd definitely suggest you give them a try, they're called La Riche Directions and they do quite a lot of different red shades from british letterbox red to deep burgandy. You can even mix shades to create something uniqe!

Have a look on their website:

lariche.co.uk/directions-hair-colour/

:] xo

0 · July 24, 2010

#5
Jennifer Kiln

Jennifer K.

MANCHESTER,
United Kingdom

20 posts

@Emma O.

Ooh thanks, i'll have a look :)

0 · July 24, 2010

#6
Sophie Bradley

Sophie B.

WEXFORD,
Ireland

451 posts

I had the same thing as you and went red, I had to have it stripped twice and put red in after, it was killer, but worth it. You should try.

0 · July 24, 2010

#7
Natalie I

Natalie I.

UNDER YOUR BED.,
United Kingdom

271 posts

The only time I've ever gone from dark brown to red, I've had it done at a hairdressers so I'd say that's your best bet.
I would suggest using a 'blue based' red dye rather that and 'orange based' one, that way when your hair begins to fade it won't go orangey.. Also if you can get some really good colour protect shampoo to stop your hair fading so fast. :)

0 · July 25, 2010

#9
Emma O

Emma O.

OL' ENGLANDE,
United Kingdom

62 posts

@Emma O.

Haha oops no typo, it's naturally blonde I bleach it lighter, but I meant the base colour I put the colours onto is white :]

0 · July 25, 2010

#11
Lottie Scarlett

Lottie S.

United Kingdom

19 posts

I dye my hair really red with the xxl dyes and my hair is naturally gingery brown and it works fine, as for you the safest and easiest way would probably just to get it down first at a hairdressers then keep up the dying at home :)

0 · July 25, 2010

#14
Nixi Nicks

Nixi N.

LOS ANGELES,
United States

18 posts

I would recommend going to a salon and talking to someone about it. I am a colorist, and I can say if you can sit down with someone and have them look at your hair, feel it out, and determine the condition, then they will be able to tell you what they think would be the best for you!

0 · July 25, 2010

#15
Hannah Grapefruit

Hannah G.

LONDON,
United Kingdom

55 posts

henna works really well - all natural too :)

you can get it from 'Lush' in different tones too

0 · July 25, 2010

#16
Lauren Grace Nichols

Lauren Grace N.

CAMBRIDGE,
United Kingdom

150 posts

I agree with everyone else, red hair is a pain in the bum to keep! It will start to fade in a week and mine always used to go a lovely orangey colour >.> not that I minded though, I was going through a "I'm so punk" stage....

Anyway, I can't really suggest any tips to lighten without damaging your hair, from what I know in order to lighten naturally dark hair you really need to bleach. I was also very scared about the well being of my hair after bleaching, but every week after bleaching and then dyeing I deep conditioned my hair with a mask and in a few weeks it was gorgeous again (well, as gorgeous as dyed hair can be!). I used a bleach to lighten my hair up (Bleach Stargazer 30 to be precise) and then put a Directions dye over the top. I've tried Directions flame dye, rubine dye, poppy red dye and fire dye, they both lasted what they're meant too 8 washes (it's semi permanent, but so vibrant! and cheap!) and then I'd put the same colour again when it's faded too much.

I'm not sure how you would lighten your hair with natural products though! But once you have definitely try Directions dye (you can buy it online and it's about £4, but very good quality colours!).

0 · July 27, 2010

#17
Katherine Mann

Katherine M.

WONDERLAND,
United States

17 posts

I actually have semi dark brown hair naturally, and I've gone red without bleaching it. My red isn't fire-engine red, but it's definitely noticeable in any light. I've used so many different products, but the one I like most is Garnier Nutrisse Nourshing Color Creme: intense red for naturally dark hair in shade R3 light intense auburn. This dye works for people with dark brown hair to give a pretty bright red color. =) It's fairly new and I'm not sure they have it in the UK but I'd definitely give it a try!

Also maybe just dying it so many times with the brightest red I could find without bleaching it has helped in brightening it, but who knows. haha

hope I was of some help!

0 · July 27, 2010

#19
Jennifer Kiln

Jennifer K.

MANCHESTER,
United Kingdom

20 posts

Omg! This is exactly how i want it! So jealous. I think I'm guna have to just accept the fact that i'll have to bleach it. I think it'll be worth it tho :) Thanks :)

0 · July 28, 2010

#20
Jennifer Kiln

Jennifer K.

MANCHESTER,
United Kingdom

20 posts

@Katherine M.

Hmm ive not noticed that here but im definatly going to look out for it! Thanks :)

0 · July 28, 2010

#21
Jennifer Kiln

Jennifer K.

MANCHESTER,
United Kingdom

20 posts

Ive not had much luck with home bleaching in the past but the Born Blonde stuff sounds good. Like I wont be bleaching it mega light just enough to make the red more bright, so hopefully not too harmful? I dunno :P

0 · July 28, 2010

#24
Nicole D.

Nicole D.

SANTIAGO,
Chile

210 posts

oh, I once bleached my hair and I would never, ever do it again, it went so awful I had to cut a lot of it. So there was a time I didnt dye my hair and let it come natural, about a year, I think, and then I dye it red and came out amazing, the difference's that my hair is very light brown. I don't know if it works, but you could just dye it red, then wait a month, and dye it again and again, so it should turn lighter, I think. At least mine has, I'm light blonde redish now haha. But yes, is hooooorrible that red won't stay bright on my hair more than a couple weeks, then it turns to a brownish orange, I don't know, weird.

0 · July 29, 2010

#25
Richard Hamilton

Richard H.

NORTHERN IRELAND,
United Kingdom

467 posts

im blonde atm, and im going red in a few weeks before i got brown again, i'm excited!

0 · July 29, 2010

#26
Alicia R.

Alicia R.

LONDON, EN-DOUBLE-EWE-ONE.,
United Kingdom

163 posts

@Emma O.

I'd suggest looking for Special FX dye if you can get it rather than Directions TBH. I've used about 80% of the Directions range over the past 18 years (particularly the reds - Poppy, Pillarbox, Vermillion, Fire and Rubine have all been staples at varies points for me), but since I got my hands on SFX, I've avoided Directions unless an "emergency" came up and I didn't have time to order more SFX.

Seriously, the pigmentation (and staying power) of SFX reds is out of this world and they even cover up less-than-even bleach jobs, which can be an issue from time-to-time if you're naturally very dark and have a lot of hair. One issue though is that they can be a total nightmare to bleach out depending on the shade - going from Nuclear Red to white was a two month effort for me, seriously.

I should also add that given the choice between Directions and Manic Panic, Directions would be the wiser choice. Manic Panic's reds (and blues) can be pretty sketchy (I've only used their bright reds and blues though). And yeah, you will definitely need to lighten your hair. A bleach bath (known as a soap cap in the US) may do it, depending on how vibrant you'd like the shade and your current hair condition.

0 · July 29, 2010

#27
Emma O

Emma O.

OL' ENGLANDE,
United Kingdom

62 posts

@Alicia R.

Ahhh see I -like- dyes that don't last too long, because I use them as pastel shades, and wait for them to wash out and then change the colour so that works for me. Have never really looked for a colour to last a long time :]

0 · July 29, 2010

#28
K Lane

K L.

FACEBOOK,
United States

307 posts

Is your brown hair now virgin hair, or was it dyed brown?

0 · July 29, 2010

#29
Alicia R.

Alicia R.

LONDON, EN-DOUBLE-EWE-ONE.,
United Kingdom

163 posts

@Emma O.

I meant I'd recommend SFX rather than Directions to the OP, as she's after a red while trying to avoid lightening her hair as best she can, although re-reading how I wrote it doesn't make it that clear. But yeah, for the OP, a highly pigmented, super-strong vegetable dye after lightening (with a bleach bath or low volume peroxide, given that you don't want it bright) would be a way to do it, and Special Effects is the best commercial dye I know for that purpose.

0 · July 29, 2010

#30
Jennifer Kiln

Jennifer K.

MANCHESTER,
United Kingdom

20 posts

@K L.

Its a mid brown but I usually dye it a couple of shades darker. Its been so long since I had my natural hair colour Ive forgotten what its actually like ;)

0 · July 30, 2010

#31
May A

May A.

LUXEMBOURG,
Europe

969 posts

I agree with those who said that red is pretty difficult to get rid of... My hair it's mid brown and I've dyed it red a few times (always at home). Last time was in January and then in April I've dyed it really dark brown cause the original colour was starting to show up. Nowadays, the dark brown is fading but the red underneath persists and in the sunlight my hair looks redish again... Oh well x3

0 · July 30, 2010

#32
K Lane

K L.

FACEBOOK,
United States

307 posts

If it's dyed you should probably try using a color stripper first. If it strips the color to a light enough brown you could probably put red over it.

0 · July 30, 2010

#33
Jennifer Kiln

Jennifer K.

MANCHESTER,
United Kingdom

20 posts

@K L.

Where do I get a colour stripper from? Or is a hair dresser jobbie?

0 · August 2, 2010

  

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